tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post1675756377272665587..comments2024-03-28T12:26:00.040-04:00Comments on ILLUSTRATION ART: WARRING WITH TROLLS, part 2David Apatoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-82480452266760021972013-03-27T21:01:50.569-04:002013-03-27T21:01:50.569-04:00Hey David, did you see the new Mad Men ad? Sort of...Hey David, did you see the new Mad Men ad? Sort of like a combo of Fawcett and Mitchell Hooks.<br /><br />ken meyer jrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-87355233892705000112013-03-15T16:35:43.072-04:002013-03-15T16:35:43.072-04:00Roger, are you trolling? :-P
Roger, are you trolling? :-P <br /><br />jaleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13257085483416950886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-90603069921649193302013-03-14T17:24:08.450-04:002013-03-14T17:24:08.450-04:00Ken Mac-- Bless you
Roger Reed-- My comparison of...Ken Mac-- Bless you<br /><br />Roger Reed-- My comparison of Fawcett and Gottlieb is intended to offer a fresh perspective to those who view Fawcett (and perhaps realism) as obsolete. Fawcett was every bit as concerned with abstract design as the most abstract of fine artists at the high water mark of abstraction. In this particular comparison, Fawcett and Gottlieb both combined black, calligraphic spatters with colored circles. It is only the content that distinguishes (and damns) Fawcett. Every person will have to decide for themselves how that distinction affects the quality of the art. (In a culture less pretentious and obssessed with class, some might even say that Fawcett deserves extra points for doing everything Gottlieb did, and more). <br /><br />I was just trying to make clear that if you neutralized the content of a Fawcett by hanging it upside down or taking a portion out of context, you would see the very same DNA as you see in a Gottlieb or de Kooning or Kline. <br /><br />The vocabulary I use to describe pictures on this blog has the supreme advantage of being 100% heartfelt. I have no commercial incentives or conflicts of interest, which frees me to be absolutely honest. It's a liberating feeling.<br /><br />Thanks again for showing me this drawing.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-67571660822990444752013-03-14T15:54:00.391-04:002013-03-14T15:54:00.391-04:00There is no way I could get away with using the ki...There is no way I could get away with using the kind of poetic language you and James employ to flog my stock of drawings, so thanks for doing it for me!<br /><br />I had a huh? moment however when you compared Fawcett with Gottlieb. Despite a (very) superficial resemblance between a very small passage of the Fawcett with the entirety of a Gottlieb painting (already an unfair comparison), I find it difficult to believe there is any common ground in technique, meaning, representation, semiotics, composition, intent or anything else between the two artists' images. I don't even think Google Images would have coughed up one given the input of the other. What was your point exactly? At least you can be confident that no one else has ever raised such a comparison before. Roger Reedhttp://www.illustrationhouse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-38102278656653568852013-03-10T22:53:09.209-04:002013-03-10T22:53:09.209-04:00This blog is magic, I could cryThis blog is magic, I could cryKen Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100185198750536244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-56251903073247204382013-03-07T23:33:34.725-05:002013-03-07T23:33:34.725-05:00Chuck Pyle-- I'm glad; Fawcett is often inspir...Chuck Pyle-- I'm glad; Fawcett is often inspirational for me as well. He does require an extra look to appreciate what lies below the surface, but more than many illustrators, I find that extra attention is rewarded.<br /><br /><br />अर्जुन -- Whatever happened to Boney M? Did he go on to win a Nobel prize or something?David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-39235211489334404622013-03-07T13:59:53.394-05:002013-03-07T13:59:53.394-05:00Educational, as always, I was sharing this with my...Educational, as always, I was sharing this with my drawing students. A very inspirational selection.chuck pylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361190681085703628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-66672483599431396682013-03-07T12:25:43.263-05:002013-03-07T12:25:43.263-05:00The bar was raised to high. Damn that rascal Putin...The bar was raised to high. Damn that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96s-VXldymI" rel="nofollow">ras</a>cal <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWOq5dp41M" rel="nofollow">Putin</a> (rah, rah).अर्जुनhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724439749828805512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-65891685738572768182013-03-07T08:12:12.913-05:002013-03-07T08:12:12.913-05:00Hank Rivera-- The Fuchs book has been written and ...Hank Rivera-- The Fuchs book has been written and is at an advanced stage. Right now, we are still trying to make sure we have the best possible images, including as many from the originals as possible, as that is the most important part.<br /><br />अर्जुन -- Good, but I think you will never duplicate the success of Rah, Rah, Rasputin. Perhaps nobody ever could.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-41466213046027903872013-03-06T23:29:42.753-05:002013-03-06T23:29:42.753-05:00Katherine Thomas-- I'm delighted. Much of the...Katherine Thomas-- I'm delighted. Much of the point for this whole blog is to share under appreciated artists among us.<br /><br />Donald Pittenger-- A very interesting perspective. I agree, it took a special breed of artist to draw cars well. (Fawcett, Fred Ludekens and Bernie Fuchs all did car ads at one time). One of the interesting things about Fawcett is that he learned to draw in the tough, no nonsense tradition so his drawings had a lot of structural integrity, yet he was ultimately able to marry that precision and control with such energy and chaos.<br /><br />James Gurney-- I think you're exactly right about the way Fawcett executed these drawings. At some point, I suspect all that "flicking and jabbing" must have been guided on a subliminal level by "what seemed right" rather than the strokes per se. That layout is kind of hard to believe, isn't it? All I can think is that the art director who originally chose Fawcett for the assignment fell into an open manhole, and was replaced by a new AD with very different taste.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-69231955310898779602013-03-06T19:48:54.722-05:002013-03-06T19:48:54.722-05:00Warring with trolls > Partying with giantsWarring with trolls > Partying with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7NmCBiNx6M" rel="nofollow">giants</a>अर्जुनhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724439749828805512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-21741737105221356792013-03-06T17:00:43.153-05:002013-03-06T17:00:43.153-05:00As I recall there was a reference awhile back abou...As I recall there was a reference awhile back about an upcoming book of Bernie Fuchs drawings. Has anything developed from that ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02357406128982128443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-3550859543470333832013-03-06T15:43:45.247-05:002013-03-06T15:43:45.247-05:00What a treat to be an ant, allowed to stroll aroun...What a treat to be an ant, allowed to stroll around in such a garden of brush and pen strokes. Good technique isn't just about making a variety of clever marks; it's about describing the most with the least, making every stroke count for a lot. I can imagine Fawcett working in a relaxed but focused way like a dentist or a surgeon. One moment he's moving fast and the next slow: flicking, jabbing, caressing the surface, choosing his tools carefully, but thinking always about the world he's painting, not the strokes per se. <br /><br />And wow, did they destroy it with that awful layout. <br />James Gurneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870848001990898499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-24741003534748966302013-03-06T11:04:32.300-05:002013-03-06T11:04:32.300-05:00One of the (few?) things I can sketch convincingly...One of the (few?) things I can sketch convincingly is automobiles, perhaps because I was one of those thousands of young guys who was a car stylist wannabe.<br /><br />And for some reason, many of the illustrators talented enough to make it into the Saturday Evening Post cover artist circle were not at all good at doing cars. That's odd, because cars require a decent sense of three-point perspective plus some knowledge of cars' internal structure and exterior proportions.<br /><br />It seems those sorts of things were given short shrift at the Art Students League or wherever.<br /><br />But Fawcett nailed it. Those old cars along the curb are very well depicted.Donald Pittengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11307228686847434740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-26890729580379777592013-03-06T09:43:10.211-05:002013-03-06T09:43:10.211-05:00Many of hte artists you feature here I've neve...Many of hte artists you feature here I've never heard of. But after reading about them they become new favorites! Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05600673251180423439noreply@blogger.com