tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post3728476194911364529..comments2024-03-28T16:44:09.428-04:00Comments on ILLUSTRATION ART: ARTISTS IN LOVE, part 19David Apatoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-91502215485438393002013-10-04T11:27:20.215-04:002013-10-04T11:27:20.215-04:00Yes Kev,
You have described exactly what is happe...Yes Kev, <br />You have described exactly what is happening. <br /><br />Brzezinski said that in the future, people won't be able to think, because they won't have the concepts to form thoughts. If that's where all is heading, then our assumptions of the past, present and future deserve a more serious examination. <br />Thanks.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-34692472512683126562013-10-02T18:51:03.251-04:002013-10-02T18:51:03.251-04:00Sean, you are pushing against some big buttons her...Sean, you are pushing against some big buttons here.<br /><br />As I see it, the issue is that any citizen of a society such as ours, where "all men are created equal", who yet isn't living an "equivalent" life to his peers (he/she feels less successful, weaker, powerless, inferior, damaged, different, etc in any way) is going to have a serious internal conflict. <br /><br />The two alternatives are to destroy inequality in life, (all people live equal) or to destroy the idea of difference, to destroy the ability to judge difference. <br /><br />Since the first alternative is almost impossible (even if perfect communism was implemented by dictatorship), the most widespread attempt of the current worldwide troupe of unequals is to destroy the validity or morality of judgement. <br /><br />And I believe this to be the cause of the dumbing down of pretty much everything. Because not only is it politically expedient to have no allowable standards by which to create hierarchies (of quality, morality, craftsmanship, art, meaning, sense, truthfulness, manners, originality, profundity, sophistication, education, or what have you), but it is commercially expedient as well. Thus the idea has cut through the entirety of the culture like a hot machete, lowering the bar for everything. <br /><br />It is interesting, but impolitic, to note where such postmodern relativist views have had no effect whatsoever and why. <br />kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-52744036184082863212013-10-02T16:53:59.043-04:002013-10-02T16:53:59.043-04:00The reason it's so easy to enter the Garden of...The reason it's so easy to enter the Garden of Earthly Delights and difficult to leave is because it provides insufficient contrast to see and think. <br /><br />Artists need different kinds of contrasts to make images and people need contrast in order to think. In our new world of genderless thinking it's not surprising that so many people are experiencing gender confusion. I'm sure some have read the sad story of the woman who felt she needed to be a man and was horrified at the “botched” outcome, only to ask a doctor to euthanize her, which he did.<br /><br />In our watered down neutral world which views contrast and differences as evil, there's no way of knowing just how many qualities of virtue have been lost. How much courage, honesty, generosity, gratitude, even creativity has been lost in living a life with insufficient contrasts? Contrast was a benefit of having some kind of standards, even if they were difficult to live up to, sometimes led to scrupulosity or nagged at our conscience from time to time.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-78599249722088271222013-10-01T10:16:41.641-04:002013-10-01T10:16:41.641-04:00Richard, I appreciate you taking a sledge hammer t...Richard, I appreciate you taking a sledge hammer to this subject with the clinical non sexual example illustrating the depth of the rabbit hole. Baudelaire's masochist who wanted his money back complaining he wasn't beaten severely enough is also a good example, but people don't start out this way.<br /><br />There's a gateway born of boredom and enticement such as say, the book Fifty Shades of Grey with its introduction of role reversals, mystery, danger and blindfolds. There is enticement in the mingling of virtues and pleasures. We don't ordinarily think of sex when we think of tenderness of heart or trust, but without them, sex quickly becomes a contest to maximize pleasure where it is convenient to forget that virtues are easily compromised for reward. <br /><br />Attempts to mingle selfishness and virtue is as old as humankind. Honor among thieves is another example and the pride and excellence in the perfect heist has been the subject of countless movie plots. Joseph Conrad's stories also test the limits of ethics in grey areas of the crisis situation. <br /><br />McKeeson's drawings are set in such a grey area. In order to enjoy them at their fullest, one has to walk into the shadows in them. It's in the grey or shadowy areas where evil makes its most persuasive arguments. It's in the areas of grey where virtues are misappropriated and much lot of life exists, but as such is brought into the light of even a single virtue, the deception is revealed. <br /> Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-63400984469752296802013-10-01T07:31:20.438-04:002013-10-01T07:31:20.438-04:00David Apatoff wrote; ”I agree that R. Crumb's ...David Apatoff wrote; <b>”I agree that R. Crumb's lines, compared to McKesson's, "proudly build his obsessions," but lines that dare to "confidently cleave" have to live with the consequences. I think much of Crumb's work could benefit from more of McKesson's artistic ambiguity. For example, I think Crumb's Book of Genesis is pretty bad because Crumb's drawings are not up to his subject matter. They are so clear, there's no hiding his simple mindedness. McKesson's blurry ghost-like figures would be better suited for such a text.”</b><br /><br />Yes, the ambiguity is what I found intriguing about these drawings. Not so much the softness of the forms but the subject matter itself. The drawings are not pornographic in the way that those of, say, Bill Ward are. Mckesson’s real intention is mysteriously unclear, yet somehow felt strongly at the same time.<br /><br />R.Crumb’s clearness of artistic purpose is a straight-forward magnet marshalling his pen hatchings like iron filings. His Book of Genesis gains its comic/tragic meaning precisely because a transcendental subject is being deliberately tugged into the dry-humoured field of his semi-nihilistic physics. McKesson’s ambiguity of meaning, while being more appropriate to such text, would not undermine it. And that, I believe, was Crumb’s purpose. However, I completely agree with the thrust of your point.<br />chris bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088693067960235141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-22809755665335903552013-10-01T07:25:49.727-04:002013-10-01T07:25:49.727-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.chris bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088693067960235141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-77262148725275257752013-09-30T16:31:51.351-04:002013-09-30T16:31:51.351-04:00k- I should think we whip each other with comparab...k- I should think we whip each other with comparable zest.<br /><br /><br />"There's a whole industry built on images [...] at least sensual if not sexual"<br /><br />Wait, are we talking about illustration now, or pornography?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249577762409684046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-10177497927903583672013-09-30T13:52:21.352-04:002013-09-30T13:52:21.352-04:00The drawings which are the subject involve fantasi...The drawings which are the subject involve fantasies of submissiveness, a slave's disposition, a worship of the female, which are at least sensual and that's enough to make the statement that he surrendered to his desires as a slave.<br /><br />There's a whole industry built on images and literature as sexual stimulation and all of it is at least sensual if not sexual, despite analysis that it's about power or some other measure. The excitement of self abandonment, or self annihilation, combined with (psychological) danger and sensuality is a powerful tonic.<br /> <br />A look at Joris-Karl Husmans' life might offer a different angle on the matter. The virtues are not masculine or feminine as both male and female were called to embody kindness, forgiveness, mercy gentleness, justice, humility etc. in the western context. Such virtues, are sensual-ized if not sexualized in McKeeson's drawings.<br /><br />Huysmans' had to have discovered this very human error towards the end of his life as he moved from a deep decadence toward an appreciation of the virtues. <br /><br />The fantasy as sensual experience moved McKeeson to render his drawings over a long span of time. <br />His drawings didn't change as his end neared, which indicates that he may have remained bound the sensuality of his shadowy world. So too those smitten with the same practices and fantasies will defend and justify them.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-49292300891166844162013-09-30T13:08:34.013-04:002013-09-30T13:08:34.013-04:00Do you torture the deadbeats, or do the deadbeats ...Do you torture the deadbeats, or do the deadbeats torture you? Or is it more a spiralling reciprocity; a dungeon pas de deux where the roles do-se-do?kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-85476457597340078752013-09-30T12:44:21.183-04:002013-09-30T12:44:21.183-04:00It feels like it. Cubical farm...dungeon, yeah, ba...It feels like it. Cubical farm...dungeon, yeah, basically.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249577762409684046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-26307756319763242702013-09-30T11:07:47.872-04:002013-09-30T11:07:47.872-04:00Richard, are you writing from a dungeon?Richard, are you writing from a dungeon?kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-69483531618006369882013-09-30T09:26:48.428-04:002013-09-30T09:26:48.428-04:00Etc, etc-- Stern Lady Gladys would like a word wit...<i>Etc, etc-- Stern Lady Gladys would like a word with you about curbing your manly nature.</i><br /><br />Tell the Lady that she and her sisterkind can wear the dresses and high heels far better than I can; it's no contest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-48958027702951946942013-09-30T09:18:48.083-04:002013-09-30T09:18:48.083-04:00"McKesson literally surrendered to his desire..."McKesson literally surrendered to his desires as a slave."<br /><br />We've heard this put 10 ways now, but again I ask, is there anything substantial to evidence that?<br /><br />We have a <i>fictional</i> novel, some drawings illustrating it, and this hearsay that he and his wife didn't have intercourse.<br /><br />We have this sense that he didn't perform well at his parent's company. But I ask you, how many hyper-rich artfags would, given the choice of retirement at 50 to a lakefront cottage where one can do as they please?<br /><br />Those few pieces of information are enough to tell you enough that you can say a man "surrendered to his desires as a slave"? A Harvard educated WW2 veteran, but the fact he may have been an asexual, who wrote and drew some BDSM art, who (incredibly) didn't like running a pharma company, and we can suddenly say that he was surrendering like a slave?<br /><br /><br /><br />"Since, definitionally, it is understood to cause arousal, then we must conclude that sexual gratification is a major aspect of it."<br /><br />Eating causes satiation. If I gorge myself on twinkies to distract myself from my own obesity, would it be accurate then to say that satiation is a major aspect of chronic over-eating?<br /><br />The sex theorists maintain the positions they do, because they study these things day in and day out, and speak with these people on a regular basis, and this is what they see and hear. If you'd like to discount an entire area of psychology, even when you yourself say you are entirely incapable of empathizing with it, then how can you be expected to have a reasonable discussion on it.<br /><br />These are the facts. BDSM is not about sex. If it was about sexual arousal you would expect these guys to have erections while they're getting electrocuted on the testicles and what have you, and I am sorry to get graphic, but the fact of the matter is that, in general, they don't. If you'd like to go research it until you get it, by all means, but at the moment, you're talking out your ass. <br /><br />In fact, I think the majority of you here are talking out your ass, at least in this thread.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249577762409684046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-7378955722332987892013-09-30T09:15:21.018-04:002013-09-30T09:15:21.018-04:00these remind me of some of Gottfried Helnwein'...these remind me of some of Gottfried Helnwein's early drawings which feature figures in mysterious scenarios often with distorted or blurred faces.<br />they also remind me of Caroline Leaf's animation of Kafka's Metamorphosis. <br /><br />what they share is the impression that the vague figures are made from the same smoggy atmosphere that fills the spaces, and which also threatens to swallow the figures. Laurence Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988700485839219253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-66577567879515918042013-09-29T22:02:14.206-04:002013-09-29T22:02:14.206-04:00McKesson literally surrendered to his desires as a...McKesson literally surrendered to his desires as a slave. His was a world unto itself, a rather small world. Finding an enabler is hardly a fix and it wasn't simply an eccentricity.<br /><br />Whatever the initial motive, it's still a distortion of certain human virtues for the benefit of deeper and deeper experiences of dispossession. He allowed himself to be replaced by the possession of the experience, not unlike a drug addict who readily sacrifices self for a fix.<br /><br />That is what McKeeson's surrender was about, dispossession. It was his choice and in the end it appears to have been the story of his life.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-13089707030573250012013-09-29T20:11:55.858-04:002013-09-29T20:11:55.858-04:00Richard, I think you are risking confusion here.
...Richard, I think you are risking confusion here.<br /><br />There are any number of "theorists" or "experts" who will say anything about anything, depending on ideology.<br /><br />Leaving them aside, either paraphilia causes arousal or it does not. Since, definitionally, it <i>is</i> understood to cause arousal, then we must conclude that sexual gratification is a major aspect of it. Thus it can be considered an end in itself, as stated earlier.<br /><br />Harvey Dunn said to his students that an artist must be in touch with his feminine side in order to be any good. He must appreciate the beautiful, and the tender, and the lyrical or the poetic. If a man as burly as Dunn can say that, I'm pretty good with it too. But he didn't call it "subverting his masculine side." <br /><br />Such an idea - that we must limit who we are in one sense, in order to be more of who we are in another sense, would have seemed bizarre to him. Except insofar as he believed in decisiveness, industriousness and the shunning of doubt in order to be a strong and positive artist. <br /><br />I would certainly align myself with the belief that we don't need to subvert any part of ourselves. We can be funny, sad, strong, and tender all at once, can't we? kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-34300486447187548122013-09-29T19:37:42.178-04:002013-09-29T19:37:42.178-04:00Chris B say'd "the paper being seen as so...Chris B say'd "the paper being seen as something that reveals visions by disclosure rather than by inclusion of something on it."<br /><br />The former is very much the way I draw. The idea of drawing by inclusion, rather than disclosure, is very much beyond me, unfortunately.<br /><br /><br />"Whatever the signal associated with the meal, it can bring about salivation after it has been programmed in. While paraphilias seem to be an end in themselves."<br /><br />I think what you may be missing, since you don't empathize with paraphilias in general, is that paraphilias are not generally about sexuality at all, at least not deep down. Paraphilias are usually not a way to produce sexual joy by way of pavlovian response from power, but a way to produce a pavlovian feeling of power by way of sexuality.<br /><br />Sexuality has a variety of sexual power-dynamics built in, with deeply hard-coded switches that can be flipped rather easily by manipulation of the circumstances of a sexual encounter, so that if one desires to experience a specific power-dynamic it becomes very easy to stimulate that feeling in the bedroom. Most sex theorists hold that to be the case even for a large portion of seemingly "normal" sexual encounters -- they're an attempt to experience specific feelings of power -- see Frat Bros at the club trying to make themselves feel manly to combat many internalized fears of inadequacy of masculinity.<br /><br /><br />And while I suspect David was joking "Perhaps you're in a state of denial?", there is something to be said for looking at your own experiences of power as a young man to get a better sense of your relationship to it now. When I was kid, I was the older brother constantly wrestling with my younger brother. I suspect that he probably internalized some specific power-dynamic feelings as a young man, similar I would guess to your own, that pushed him in a similar direction. He could now probably kick my ass, works out every day, studies martial arts, and is all-around very characteristically masculine.<br /><br />I have gone the opposite direction. As a child I was a very angry masculine kid -- as I've gotten older I've found a lot of pleasure in subverting that (although not in the ways McKesson did). I'm interested in "pretty" things, "sweet" things -- I like pop music designed for girls and what have you.<br /><br />Perhaps I am way off the mark for your specific case, but I think most people have some power-dynamics internalized as children that they attempt to subvert, although not generally in the way McKesson did it.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249577762409684046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-76737751179042841892013-09-29T16:25:18.382-04:002013-09-29T16:25:18.382-04:00Perhaps you're in a state of denial?
More lik...<b>Perhaps you're in a state of denial?</b><br /><br />More like I've sublimated my desires. Now when I want to get bitch-slapped by degenerates, I just post here. kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-38246130096769913672013-09-29T16:00:52.836-04:002013-09-29T16:00:52.836-04:00Chris Bennett-- I agree that R. Crumb's lines,...Chris Bennett-- I agree that R. Crumb's lines, compared to McKesson's, "proudly build his obsessions," but lines that dare to "confidently cleave" have to live with the consequences. I think much of Crumb's work could benefit from more of McKesson's artistic ambiguity. For example, I think Crumb's Book of Genesis is pretty bad because Crumb's drawings are not up to his subject matter. They are so clear, there's no hiding his simple mindedness. McKesson's blurry ghost-like figures would be better suited for such a text.<br /><br />Kev Ferrara-- You obviously missed the comment above that "in the BDSM community, male subs are more often than not, rather masculine people who gain pleasure by SUBVERTING their own personality." Perhaps you're in a state of denial?<br /><br />Sean Farrell-- I knew you weren't trying to "speak authoritatively," I was just offering my own humility before broaching a topic where, as you say, "these things are not all as they appear." Even the most normal, healthy relationships have their eccentricities. If the couple is fortunate, supply and demand fit together the way they fit for McKesson and Madelaine.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-5781669803822872622013-09-29T11:07:43.930-04:002013-09-29T11:07:43.930-04:00Whatever the signal associated with the meal, it c...Whatever the signal associated with the meal, it can bring about salivation after it has been programmed in.<br /><br />Very well said.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-53065418464632740392013-09-29T11:02:38.549-04:002013-09-29T11:02:38.549-04:00He may have felt very guilty over something, or ho...He may have felt very guilty over something, or how he treated someone and in his remorseful searching discovered a gentleness, a surrender that first became a sexual friend and then he became its slave. There's no way of knowing how he arrived where he did. The phenomenon, or mysteries of masochism are far too old to consider he or his drawings as visionary.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-35645782174738397802013-09-29T10:52:27.414-04:002013-09-29T10:52:27.414-04:00David, having played rough sports for years and ye...David, having played rough sports for years and years and having had an older brother who I wrestled with constantly growing up, and having spent far too much time in gyms attempting to keep fit, I have a strong empathy with the physicality of Frazetta's works. I don't care about his subject matter, really, or anybody else's really, as it all is a mask over the feeling. <br /><br />That I lack any empathetic feelings toward paraphilias made me wonder what, if anything I am missing in the feeling of Mckesson's drawings. That's what I meant.<br /><br />David, were you implying that run of the mill heterosexual relationships are also the product of complementary derangements incorporating? <br /><br />Richard, while it may be true that "people get sexually aroused by all sorts of things" this is a confusion of the issue in the light of the actual discussion about paraphilias. Normal people can find non sexual things arousing because of a Pavlovian association with actual sexual experience. Whatever the signal associated with the meal, it can bring about salivation after it has been programmed in. While paraphilias seem to be an end in themselves. One shouldn't confuse the arousal caused by the memory of a lover's perfume with that caused by the lash of a whip on the back.kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-56761790194208073182013-09-29T10:37:08.831-04:002013-09-29T10:37:08.831-04:00David, I wasn't trying to speak authoritativel...David, I wasn't trying to speak authoritatively. That's my point, that these things are not all as they appear. They can be born of many things and counter intuitive to how they appear. Yet the behavior is extreme enough to warrant some thoughts.<br /><br />As the drawings are presented, they are selling a world in shadows, a vague and sometimes directly submissive world. My point is that it's a self indulgent world, even if he was trying for example to negotiate a coolness, or stubborn wall of a mate; or allow another to express themselves without his interference. To allow another such leeway for whatever reason may not matter because it still wound up grossly self indulgent.<br /><br />Even in the drawings, he may have been trying to understand things, but he was still wandering in a very self indulgent realm. By self indulgent, it implies lonely, sad, disconnected, endless yearning, but misguided.<br /><br />One can see another in kindness and behave accordingly without the belittling of oneself. For that matter, one can share oneself with another in a kind, humble and tender manner without drifting into subservience. McKeesen, for whatever reason, got caught in a wind of gentleness<br />which twisted some virtues into a source of sexual pleasure.Sean Farrellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-20314299114057813762013-09-29T10:04:46.686-04:002013-09-29T10:04:46.686-04:00Sean Farrell wrote: "would that have been lov...Sean Farrell wrote: "would that have been love or possession?" I'm not sure I can speak authoritatively about the difference between the two. As I tried to suggest in an earlier "Artists in Love" post about cowboy artist Charlie Russell, "It's not clear who really wore the saddle in their marriage. I suspect that, as with most long term relationships, the difference between who rides and who is ridden depends only on the time of day." <br /><br />I especially like your use of the broader term, "surrender." We don't just surrender to another person, we surrender to passion and desire, we surrender to our nature-- a lot of potential there. <br /><br />Kev Ferrara wrote: "I can't help feeling that this arrangement of a marriage was less about love, and more about complementary derangements." <br /><br />I'm not sure I can speak authoritatively about the difference between these two, either.<br /><br />On your other point, I assume you view Frazetta's pictures "from squaresville" as well, unless in real life you are a barbarian with a wench draped over your shoulder. That shouldn't prevent you from getting a voyeur's appreciation of his work.<br /><br />Richard-- I don't know how accurate Deanna Isaacs' article was, or how her political orientation may have affected her view, but there seems to be some objective facts that do not seem susceptible to interpretation-- that McKesson could not survive in the family business or any other real job, that he lived off of his mother, etc. I agree with you that "People get sexually aroused by all sorts of strange things," and furthermore that they talk or fantasize or role play about all kinds of things they never do in real life. But this may be the reason the cumulative effect of Mckesson's work has a qualitative impact; this is no playful fantasy, it is a long term consuming obsession. Looking at a whole room full of these scribbles at the Visionary Art Museum was very persuasive to me.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-34444724723669847462013-09-29T07:00:01.867-04:002013-09-29T07:00:01.867-04:00Antonio and Richard--
“Unless you're working ...Antonio and Richard--<br /><br /><b>“Unless you're working INTO a white block, lit by fairly uniform diffuse light. Then the deeper you carved, the darker that area. I have no idea if that's what chris bennett meant though.”</b><br /><br />That is what I was getting at, Richard. However the idea that the pencil is a mason’s pointing chisel is not a fully literal one. I see carving as an attitude towards material – the paper being seen as something that reveals visions by disclosure rather than by inclusion of something on it. So this would be the case even though the marks are landing on the forms rather than around it. I experience Michelangelo’s pen drawing as carved; the hatching, resembling a scutch chisel describing the turn of their surfaces. R. Crumb’s hatching, though ponderous, is more modelling than carving. And Seurat’s conte crayon drawings (which McKesson’s superficially resemble) are the same; the forms ‘built up’ rather than uncovered. <br /><br />In its broadest form, the carving and modelling distinction, beyond being one of process, is a philosophical/spiritual one concerning the nature of an artist’s dialogue with the medium: On one hand, to see the unsullied material as a pre-existing oneness that is to be maintained in the formal relationships separated out of it. On the other, to see it as mute stage upon which forms are placed until complete.<br /><br />These ideas can be found in their fullest form in Adrian Stoke’s book “The Stones of Rimini”<br /><br />David Apatoff— I feel the carving thing can be seen at the service of McKesson’s hangups rather than any aesthetic attitude on his part. (In my view his drawing fall short of Seurat’s and even R.Crumb’s aesthetically.) Although ‘carving’, McKesson’s graphic handwriting is like something wriggling within the womb of the paper. Michelangelo’s hatchings confidently cleave it into his passion. R. Crumb’s ‘modelling’ hatchings proudly build his obsessions.chris bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088693067960235141noreply@blogger.com