tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post4064009603507569741..comments2024-03-27T18:26:40.787-04:00Comments on ILLUSTRATION ART: ADDING THAT CERTAIN SOMETHINGDavid Apatoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-32148882741346374162019-05-29T08:56:45.883-04:002019-05-29T08:56:45.883-04:00Your blog is a real treasure. Please, keep it aliv...Your blog is a real treasure. Please, keep it alive! <br />Thanks you!Vladimir Venkovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04516793914966696490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-50651294622536175162019-05-24T03:38:45.787-04:002019-05-24T03:38:45.787-04:00Richard with the avatar,
Are you the same Richard...Richard with the avatar, <br />Are you the same Richard without the avatar?<br />Just wondering in case this voodoo stuff really works...chris bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088693067960235141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-86282729025134551052019-05-23T12:37:12.416-04:002019-05-23T12:37:12.416-04:00I was going to continue laying out my art history ...I was going to continue laying out my art history argument, but now I've gotta go investigate this Voodoo guy...<br /><br />Moore is my favorite Bond after all, and I'm looking for my very own baron samedi.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249577762409684046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-67308233084450026452019-05-23T08:52:59.914-04:002019-05-23T08:52:59.914-04:00I am Alecia,from what I can read. It has been sad ...I am Alecia,from what I can read. It has been sad news and scam to everyone about Voodoo casters or so. But to me they are so real because one worked for me not quite long ago.i met this man on a blog his name is Dr Abalaka is a very powerful man.I traveled down to where his shrine his and we both did the ritual and sacrifice.he had no website yet but he promised to create one as costumers are requesting for it, and now i'm free from the powders of sickness.I don't know about you but Voodoo is real;love marriage,finance, job promotion ,lottery Voodoo,poker voodoo,golf Voodoo,Law & Court case Spells,money voodoo,weigh loss voodoo,diabetic voodoo,hypertensive voodoo,high cholesterol voodoo,Trouble in marriage,Barrenness(need a child),Luck, Money Spells,he also cure any cancer and HIV,it's all he does. I used my money to purchase everything he used he never collected a dime from. He told me I can repay him anytime with anything from my heart. Now I don't know how to do that. If you can help or you need his help write him on (dr.abalaka@outlook.com) and also his cell number: 760-935-3804 you can text him because he use to be very busy some times,i believe that your story will change for better,or if you have any question you can contact me here as 1001madonado@gmail.com i wish you a best of luck.Madonaldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05637720202380079008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-41130083011814522092019-05-22T22:32:12.560-04:002019-05-22T22:32:12.560-04:00LaGatta produced his glamorous work for the most m...LaGatta produced his glamorous work for the most mainstream publications imaginable. These publication sought mass appeal. A little glamour and a hint of sexuality was fine. But I've never seen anything obscene or vulgar or shocking in those pages. Even with the roaring twenties being a liberating time of great social change. (1905 was still quite Victorian in popular attitude, btw. Then: WWI, the movies, automobiles, telephones, city life, female liberation, broadway, pop stars, and fierce newsstand competition brought big changes in a short period of time.)<br /><br />I didn't follow your Kardashian link.kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-52136780035040912692019-05-22T21:37:33.562-04:002019-05-22T21:37:33.562-04:00I thought I had allowed for that range by temperin...I thought I had allowed for that range by tempering my phrasing to "pop immodesty", and carefully picking a photograph of a <i>fully-clothed</i> Kim Kardashian.<br /><br />Although, granted, people 100 years ago would have found the picture of Kim Kardashian extremely obscene, clothed or not, I think it's safe to say that, given current trends, 100 years from now people will think the scandal around that picture a puritan curio.<br /><br />During the 19th century, the display of a woman's naked ankle was seen as a bit desperate. And, of course, <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Annette_Kellerman1.jpg" rel="nofollow">Annette Kellerman</a> was arrested in 1905 for wearing a little less than a burkini to the beach. (And it's worth noting that 1905 is about half a century closer to when these pictures were made, than these pictures are to today.)<br /><br />Given that Jean "I like to wake up each morning feeling a new man" Harlow was famously the first woman called a "slut" in a talky, and was causing some scandal with photos like <a href="https://sammydvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bias-cut-dress-jean-harlow.jpg" rel="nofollow">this</a> in the 1920s and 30s, I think it's safe to say that La Gatta allowing the side of a woman's breast to be visible through her tight nighty as she lounges in her boudoir <a href="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CHtG-X9VQwM/XNrFPvMeqtI/AAAAAAAAVIo/vmwghsQK3xw6tClWSjy3TxTe0FMk52xMgCEwYBhgL/s1600/La%2BGatta_LadiesHomeJournal_1938_100.jpg" rel="nofollow">here</a> would have been quite shocking at the time.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-55168487873854914212019-05-22T13:48:15.992-04:002019-05-22T13:48:15.992-04:00Richard,
Tell your binary brain that there are ot...Richard,<br /><br />Tell your binary brain that there are other words that fall between chaste and obscene in meaning.<br /><br />Thankskev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-70637034667101684432019-05-21T21:26:11.969-04:002019-05-21T21:26:11.969-04:00I'm on my may back to my porn, but as I go, I ...I'm on my may back to my porn, but as I go, I do want to consider this once more.<br /><br />You see, looking at 1910s and 20s candid photography of women sitting, I rarely find any women in such comfortable arrangements. When I do, it's never in the company of men.<br /><br />Dusting off my 1922 copy of Emily Post's Etiquette, I find these rules for sitting:<br /><br />"=HOW TO SIT GRACEFULLY=<br /><br />Having shaken hands with the hostess, the visitor, whether a lady or a<br />gentleman, looks about quietly, without hurry, for a convenient chair to<br />sit down upon, or drop into. To sit gracefully one should not perch<br />stiffly on the edge of a straight chair, nor sprawl at length in an easy<br />one. The perfect position is one that is easy, but dignified. In other<br />days, no lady of dignity ever crossed her knees, held her hands on her<br />hips, or twisted herself sideways, or even leaned back in her chair!<br />To-day all these things are done; and the only etiquette left is on the<br />subject of how not to exaggerate them. No lady should cross her knees so<br />that her skirts go up to or above them; neither should her foot be thrust<br />out so that her toes are at knee level. An arm a-kimbo is _not_ a graceful<br />attitude, nor is a twisted spine! Everyone, of course, leans against a<br />chair back, except in a box at the opera and in a ballroom, but a lady<br />should never throw herself almost at full length in a reclining chair or<br />on a wide sofa when she is out in public. Neither does a gentleman in<br />paying a formal visit sit on the middle of his backbone with one ankle<br />supported on the other knee, and both as high as his head.<br /><br />The proper way for a lady to sit is in the center of her chair, or<br />slightly sideways in the corner of a sofa. She may lean back, of course,<br />and easily; her hands relaxed in her lap, her knees together, or if<br />crossed, her foot must not be thrust forward so as to leave a space<br />between the heel and her other ankle. On informal occasions she can lean<br />back in an easy chair with her hands on the arms. In a ball dress a lady<br />of distinction never leans back in a chair; one can not picture a<br />beautiful and high-bred woman, wearing a tiara and other ballroom jewels,<br />leaning against anything. This is, however, not so much a rule of<br />etiquette as a question of beauty and fitness.<br /><br />A gentleman, also on very formal occasions, should sit in the center of<br />his chair; but unless it is a deep lounging one, he always leans against<br />the back and puts a hand or an elbow on its arms.<br />"<br /><br />It makes one wonder if putting figures in such comfortable positions was less a creative bit of artistry, and more, a rebellious bit of pop immodesty.<br /><br />How can I be sure that today's photography won't similarly be judged for the lack of creative posing, because more of photos don't look like <a href="https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2014/November/141112/1D274907200500-kim-cover-web-12.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg" rel="nofollow">Kim Kardashian breaking the internet</a>.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-54679977726168521712019-05-21T12:10:40.403-04:002019-05-21T12:10:40.403-04:00No it would not - go back to your porn .No it would not - go back to your porn .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-37500051420285822442019-05-21T10:37:45.463-04:002019-05-21T10:37:45.463-04:00Really just wild conjecture here, but would this r...Really just wild conjecture here, but would this repose have been seen as a bit obscene at the time? Maybe not quite the 'twerk' of the period, but perhaps a pose that women of good breeding wouldn't take in the company of strange men.<br /><br />A cursory (okay, maybe not cursory) look at the pornography 1930's suggests to me that these sorts of poses were the same poses that pornography had popularized for the ~30 years prior -- women in repose (particularly in the proximity of handsome men) were women who were advertising that they could be 'had'.<br /><br />If that's true, would it then be more accurate to assume that the other illustrators preferred staid poses for fear of upsetting little old ladies?<br /><br />Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-27131524681557316532019-05-20T00:38:24.648-04:002019-05-20T00:38:24.648-04:00I inhaledI inhaledJosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18396610569402016319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-81351531862166235852019-05-18T17:17:57.207-04:002019-05-18T17:17:57.207-04:00I think it is a testament to LaGatta's immense...I think it is a testament to LaGatta's immense poetic talent that his work is so beautiful, elegant and truthful that it easily defeats the cigarette propaganda it is pitted against/with.kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-20615092152631843172019-05-18T16:02:19.222-04:002019-05-18T16:02:19.222-04:00It can be found online at the Simthsonian (SAAM) a...It can be found online at the Simthsonian (SAAM) at: https://americanart.si.edu/artwork/seated-woman-17437 -interesting that it is a not uncommon subject, and it would also be interesting to see Miller’s other (probably more unconventional) takes.comicstripfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14830784804963989361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-85766949130267181842019-05-18T14:57:17.297-04:002019-05-18T14:57:17.297-04:00comicstripfan-- I seem to find a lot of images of ...comicstripfan-- I seem to find a lot of images of seated women by Miller, some looking conventional and others not so much. Can you send us to the particular image you mean?David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-68330598944298060472019-05-18T11:06:15.039-04:002019-05-18T11:06:15.039-04:00"...there was one illustrator in the magazine..."...there was one illustrator in the magazine whose approach stood out from the rest. John La Gatta received the same old assignment: draw a seated woman."<br /><br />Since John La Gatta is known to have studied under Kenneth Hayes Miller, is it too recondite to detect any kind of influence on La Gatta’s art in Miller’s pencil on paper “Seated Woman” (n.d.)?comicstripfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14830784804963989361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-42046156103431345332019-05-18T02:00:20.474-04:002019-05-18T02:00:20.474-04:00chris bennett-- I agree, there is certainly "...chris bennett-- I agree, there is certainly "musicality" in his forms. We recognize it when we see it but it's tough to explain other than by words such as "musicality."<br /><br />Li-An-- So much La Gatta that I haven't described here. He lead an incredible life. I highly recommend Jill Bossert's biography of La Gatta.<br /><br />Paul Sullivan-- Many thanks, I appreciate it.<br /><br />Amitabh-- Thanks for sending the image from Simplicissimus. I see exactly what you mean-- it's creative in the same way. I like Eduard Thony's work very much, and have a collection of his tearsheets. Perhaps I can display them in a post. David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-68255203004828500022019-05-15T13:12:32.998-04:002019-05-15T13:12:32.998-04:00Hi David,
Great posts!
When I saw the title of thi...Hi David,<br />Great posts!<br />When I saw the title of this post the image that came to mind was an illustration by Eduard Thony in Simplicissimus, I was fortunate enough to see a collection of illustrations at the Hillsborough public library.<br />I could only find a link to a beach towel that has stolen that image and is selling it on various merchandise. <br />https://fineartamerica.com/featured/germany-1920s-cartoon-granger.html?product=round-beach-towel<br /> <br />It would be awesome if you could post some images by him and tell us a little more about him and his work. I think he lived between 1870- 1950. Any books on him currently available also would be good to know to buy.<br /><br />Thank you. You have a very good blog!<br />Amitabh<br />Untitledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05167338867779006388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-85692956402500965492019-05-15T12:03:38.610-04:002019-05-15T12:03:38.610-04:00Great Post! Your observations and comments are exc...Great Post! Your observations and comments are excellent.Paul Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07953800994005887026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-45783832481344994672019-05-14T16:32:05.570-04:002019-05-14T16:32:05.570-04:00So much LaGatta I don’t know. Thanks a lot.So much LaGatta I don’t know. Thanks a lot.Li-Anhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10702501956172981776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-85471187596365633402019-05-14T14:25:17.908-04:002019-05-14T14:25:17.908-04:00Wonderful post David.
One feels that even if he we...Wonderful post David.<br />One feels that even if he were tasked with depicting an old crone sat upon a stool knitting in front of the fire he would have invested her pose with your 'certain something'. <br />I believe that 'certain something' lies deep in the musicality of his forms, and this is what drives the realisation of his figures' page-flexing attitudes.chris bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088693067960235141noreply@blogger.com