tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post4533432879639624408..comments2024-03-28T05:04:06.624-04:00Comments on ILLUSTRATION ART: THE NAKEDNESS OF GOYADavid Apatoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-27063789211309190742008-12-29T18:05:00.000-05:002008-12-29T18:05:00.000-05:00I just visited the Prado a couple weeks back, havi...I just visited the Prado a couple weeks back, having gone there almost entirely to see the Goya work. <BR/><BR/>I've always felt that it would be a mistake to judge Goya's art based on either his traditionally academic ability, or the large body of commissioned work/portrait paintings that make up his life's work. <BR/><BR/>For me Goya has always been about content. And his "personal" work is completely loaded with it, emotional, social and political.<BR/>Seeing the work in person, the almost feverish brush work, driven and simple statements of design with no real bravado; just drove this home. If I wanted to find beautiful brushwork and color, I only needed to go upstairs and look at the Velasquez paintings. The Goya's were for feeling with the heart and mind, not for analyzing technique. <BR/><BR/>His etchings and paintings like "3rd of May" have had a profound influence on my work for years. Seeing the "black paintings" in person, and really being able to sense the mania and honesty with which he was painting was a truly rewarding experience.<BR/><BR/>Thanks a lot for your insightful post, you've done a great job of summarizing my feelings on the subject of Goya and the critical response to his work by many in the art community.Kyler Dannelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12535848482145388563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-58791649779040154452008-12-25T17:22:00.000-05:002008-12-25T17:22:00.000-05:00Goya! I love love love Goya - my single most burni...Goya! I love love love Goya - my single most burning reason as to why I want to go to Spain! Thank you so much for this piece on him - I can never get enough of this fantastic artist!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-9174978653629689182008-12-19T23:53:00.000-05:002008-12-19T23:53:00.000-05:00ahh absolute remarks, To say his etchings wouldnt ...ahh absolute remarks, To say his etchings wouldnt have realized for sure is unnecessary absolute declaration just beacuase the techniques and exectution looks the same. Its like saying , my name wouldnt be bhanu if I wasnt born. But I am born so here I am. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Anyways,<BR/>Goya I think was one the first fine artists. Painting as a complete act of self expression and for ones own pleasure and pain.<BR/>I have only seen the works as reproductions. I wish to see them in person.<BR/>Thank you for the post Mr. Apatoff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-56050972447352631472008-12-19T08:48:00.000-05:002008-12-19T08:48:00.000-05:00the goya's etchings are called "capricios"and whit...the goya's etchings are called "capricios"and whitout rembrandt's works ( and his inspiration ) they never be realized for sure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-58811331319981459272008-12-18T23:28:00.000-05:002008-12-18T23:28:00.000-05:00Thanks, Bruce. Glad to have you here.Gerard, I am...Thanks, Bruce. Glad to have you here.<BR/><BR/>Gerard, I am a big fan of Robert Hughes, and he seems to have special insight into Goya. It sounds like you share my opinion. Thanks for the quote!David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-26141714010409564592008-12-18T18:21:00.000-05:002008-12-18T18:21:00.000-05:00"The inscrutable dog's head, the lonely pooch gazi..."The inscrutable dog's head, the lonely pooch gazing over the rim of the world, looking (one presumes) for its vanished master, as mankind might look for its vanished God."- <A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2003/oct/04/art.biography" REL="nofollow">Robert Hughes on Goya's unflinching eye </A>vanderleunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296245324443413545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-3883725347691552752008-12-18T18:02:00.000-05:002008-12-18T18:02:00.000-05:00You know, thinking about that more I believe I've ...You know, thinking about that more I believe I've conflated Dali with Goya. Sorry about that.vanderleunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296245324443413545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-46323807014127292162008-12-18T18:00:00.000-05:002008-12-18T18:00:00.000-05:00"the "half-submerged dog" is a bleak image that ma..."the "half-submerged dog" is a bleak image that makes no sense at all (and for that reason, is all the more frightening):"<BR/><BR/>This is one of my favorite Goya paintings. When I first saw it in the Prado in 1968, the title card next to it said, "Premonition of Civil War." I don't know it that was Goya's title or something that came after, but that is indeed what it said.vanderleunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296245324443413545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-42039478759922230742008-12-18T10:52:00.000-05:002008-12-18T10:52:00.000-05:00It's truly a gift having you on my myspace as a fr...It's truly a gift having you on my myspace as a friend! I very much appreciate your blog on Goya and your insight into his art. I will be checking back here with anticipation for future blogs ... bruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com