tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post5061362019897382734..comments2024-03-28T05:04:06.624-04:00Comments on ILLUSTRATION ART: THE TASTE OF METALLIC KISSESDavid Apatoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-73383641502094426652011-02-05T13:54:46.170-05:002011-02-05T13:54:46.170-05:00As we desperately seek to create machines that do ...As we desperately seek to create machines that do the extraordinary, we are overlooking the necessity of performing the ordinary. <br /><br />The great irony is that we seem frenzied and desperate to reach a tipping point where we have created machines that are so full of life as to reflect their makers- seems we've not so far to go. I don't know if the human soul can be given away, but we're certainly doing our best to try.<br /><br />The ultimate battle between man and metal may resemble a hostile takeover more than an impassioned war.<br /><br />"Technology will destroy us. Technology will save us."<br /><br /> Thanks for another amazing post David!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956716005380611665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-33252689427371965072011-02-05T00:33:21.180-05:002011-02-05T00:33:21.180-05:00well done and i love the concept.
Art inspiration...well done and i love the concept.<br /><br />Art inspiration:<br />http://on.fb.me/fGfG9aHenriechnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-9161309911080857692011-01-28T14:56:35.285-05:002011-01-28T14:56:35.285-05:00I stand by the assertion that most people apprecia...I stand by the assertion that most people appreciate their snowblowers and dishwashers for the service they perform. <br /><br />But that is beside the point I was trying to make.kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-51707511218497240372011-01-28T12:53:14.601-05:002011-01-28T12:53:14.601-05:00"On the one hand its usefulness can make a ma..."On the one hand its usefulness can make a machine lovable (A snowblower to anybody living in the Northeast of the U.S., say, or a dishwasher) But this is merely the love of getting out of boring labor. The machine itself can't be loved or appreciated. It doesn't have the capacity."<br /><br />Not true. Machines make up a part of our landscape, both household and beyond, ad we tend to love it for the same reason we love everything else around us - because we fear change.<br /><br />Change represents death and the erasure of our lives, our past, and the world as we've come to know it. That's why it's unnerving when you revisit your childhood town and discover all the restaurants have changed, the forest was torn down for a strip mall, and your parents have a new fridge, and a xerox machine where some vases used to be.<br /><br />Just ask yourself, why don't you love the new fridge just as much, when it does the same job as before?T Arthur Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831844692245441302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-67256068326560821772011-01-23T08:40:20.169-05:002011-01-23T08:40:20.169-05:00Dei ex machina are only bad storytelling devices a...Dei ex machina are only bad storytelling devices as far as plot is concerned, and plot is nothing more than a storytelling device itself.<br /><br />As allegorical functions, the plots of gods and machines serve us equally well well as we attempt to make sense of life.<br /><br />As long as we don't start interpreting the metaphor as fact, we'll be OK, I think. <br /><br />"You must remember this / A kiss is still a kiss"Øyvind Lauvdahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01560444595186654411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-26380927702471061142011-01-22T18:31:22.727-05:002011-01-22T18:31:22.727-05:00the juxtaposition of pert babe and fetishized hard...the juxtaposition of pert babe and fetishized hardware is what the adolescent comic book imagination is all about.Laurence Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988700485839219253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-1782972485133685002011-01-22T17:06:49.336-05:002011-01-22T17:06:49.336-05:00It is interesting how artists did not humanize hor...It is interesting how artists did not humanize horses when they were transportation. Possibly because experience made everyone familiar with the reality of their animal nature. Creativity often needs a frontier to prompt its action, new or old... something unknown and new to prompt speculation. <br /><br />But machines are a frontier we have created ourselves.. they are both old (as tools) and new (as technology). They aren't the distant stars or Death.<br /><br />On the one hand its usefulness can make a machine lovable (A snowblower to anybody living in the Northeast of the U.S., say, or a dishwasher) But this is merely the love of getting out of boring labor. The machine itself can't be loved or appreciated. It doesn't have the capacity.<br /><br />Our endless romanticization of the mechanical makes me wonder whether there is a certain disappointment attached to the fact that our creations, the finest fruit of our rational minds, are so lacking in soul. (Yet... Don't AI researchers realize their ultimate success would make us all slaveholders once again?)<br /><br />And yet our machines can provide us service that is ultimately good because of our emotional need to have more time to do what we want in life. Possibly there is a sort of mental confusion that comes along with getting something for nothing: emotional benefit requiring no emotional return. A credit card payment to the former owner of a machine is no substitute for an actual interaction with the device wherein heartfelt appreciation is communicated.<br /><br />Reminds me of that old quote: <i>The worst moment for an atheist is when he feels grateful and has no one to thank.</i><br /><br />I sometimes feel that pang myself.<br /><br />kevkev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-81102470176204411232011-01-22T16:13:42.030-05:002011-01-22T16:13:42.030-05:00I remember when this blog was …er …OK, but now tha...I remember when this blog was …er …OK, but now that it has "jumped the shark" I fear that I too may become <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlrXOhmxcWs" rel="nofollow">a parody</a> or perhaps even a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seY9kF4xNRA" rel="nofollow">cheap replica!</a>अर्जुनhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724439749828805512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-36149496674324056442011-01-22T14:50:47.986-05:002011-01-22T14:50:47.986-05:00I found a teeny weenie one...
http://www.burnlab....I found a teeny weenie one...<br /><br />http://www.burnlab.net/V3/lab_report_images/barr.jpgStephen Worthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047366337202801862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-78916128407889913392011-01-22T14:47:09.145-05:002011-01-22T14:47:09.145-05:00It's relatively easy to render a car realistic...It's relatively easy to render a car realistically, but it is extremely hard to stylize or caricature them effectively. I once did a sweep through my cartooning books looking for nicely exaggeratedautos, and there weren't many. The interesting thing is that when you see it done right, it looks so correct, you don't realize the difficulty involved.<br /><br />I worked with Glenn Barr on a commercial and he brought a bunch of his prints to give the studio as gifts. The big boss snapped up the car crash ones before anyone else got a crack at them!Stephen Worthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047366337202801862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-53362078377712178822011-01-22T10:19:05.968-05:002011-01-22T10:19:05.968-05:00StimmeDesHerzens: I am very pleased to be a provid...StimmeDesHerzens: I am very pleased to be a provider of mirth.<br /><br />Raphael wrote: "this is not only a statement about our view of machinery, but also of ourselves." Exactly, and isn't that what makes it so interesting? We use art to personify / humanize inanimate objects in a way that offers us a reflecting mirror. (With today's interactive technology, we need to keep checking to see whether that mirror is looking back at us). Thanks for the Jon Foster quote!<br /><br />Tom Kidd: yes, that is certainly not a typical Wyeth but I agree he did a beautiful job (especially for someone who had never been up in a plane at the dawn of aviation). His powerful imagination was not limited to knights in armour.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-60864631390271476952011-01-22T10:06:55.157-05:002011-01-22T10:06:55.157-05:00Matthew Harwood: I agree that we have had a love/h...Matthew Harwood: I agree that we have had a love/hate relationship with machines since the first ancient craftsman accidentallly banged his thumb with a hammer. But of course, now machines take up a much larger part of our lives, filling far more complicated roles in a far more interactive way. That tends to make the "love/hate" a little more layered.<br /><br />Lennard Grahn: I suppose that depends on how you define "master." So-called "fine" artists such as Richard Estes do large photo-realist paintings of cars. But I think the most interesting parallel is in the post WW II commercial field. Cars were depicted as gleaming dream machines, part of the "good life" in America. Artists stretched them to look longer and surrounded them with spotlights and beautiful girls in sequined gowns. Some were designed to impart virility to their owners. Some were painted as the celestial embodiment of commercial success in this world. Top illustrators such as Austin Briggs, Bernie Fuchs and Fred Ludekens were drafted to bring personality and light to these metal objects. There is a whole fascinating world of car paintings between 1946 and 1964.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-88040726424051312302011-01-22T09:52:40.167-05:002011-01-22T09:52:40.167-05:00Anonymous no. 2: I enjoy Ashley Wood's work, c...Anonymous no. 2: I enjoy Ashley Wood's work, cheesecake or not.<br /><br />D.H.: You're very kind, I didn't think anyone would notice. I was out of range of a scanner and my collection for a while, but now I'm back (for better or worse). <br /><br />Stephen Worth: I am generally familiar with Barr's work, but not with his crash paintings, which apparently take a little effort to find on the internet. I'll have to track them down.David Apatoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293486149879229016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-4254817809972140432011-01-22T09:31:57.884-05:002011-01-22T09:31:57.884-05:00Love that Wyeth . . . and I've never seen it b...Love that Wyeth . . . and I've never seen it before. Congratulations on finding that one!Tom Kiddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01304383935503636393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-37904340048507667092011-01-22T05:47:49.937-05:002011-01-22T05:47:49.937-05:00very nice blog...
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Just goes to show the potential versatility, the outerboundaries yet unexplored, of art. <br />With a smile & schöne Grüße! ~BStimmeDesHerzenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15084934926989805342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-27503682807110707762011-01-21T04:17:37.594-05:002011-01-21T04:17:37.594-05:00Given the extreme significance of the automobile i...Given the extreme significance of the automobile in the modern age, I can't recall a depiction of it by any modern "master" - with the exception of the Futurists<br /><br />(love reading this blog, btw)lennardghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943576256775227745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-40740216601968719222011-01-20T18:27:56.749-05:002011-01-20T18:27:56.749-05:00Machine: a thing that is created skillfully and in...Machine: a thing that is created skillfully and inventively to serve a particular purpose.<br /><br />We have always had a love/hate relationship with our machines but creating and using these tools are what make us human. On the one hand, they give us superhuman powers that transcend our physical or mental limitiations and can be used to our advantage. But on the other hand, tools and machines can give some other group or individual superhuman strength to our disadvantage. <br /><br />Is it only a matter of parity that make a thing "good" or "bad"?Matthew Harwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00734480582730495611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-52994757494587024372011-01-20T18:10:48.173-05:002011-01-20T18:10:48.173-05:00Glen Barr's car crash paintings are another gr...Glen Barr's car crash paintings are another great example of sensuous depictions of machines.Stephen Worthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047366337202801862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-21925167472994693482011-01-20T16:40:43.400-05:002011-01-20T16:40:43.400-05:00Mmmust... rrresist... urge to ffflame... initial A...Mmmust... rrresist... urge to ffflame... initial Anonymous poster... .J. Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850821328749122725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-13380335392684224742011-01-20T16:03:56.419-05:002011-01-20T16:03:56.419-05:00..i fretted as one of my favorite bookmarks sat id.....i fretted as one of my favorite bookmarks sat idle for almost a month..<br />whew..<br />D.H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-6096218047546413562011-01-20T14:51:24.510-05:002011-01-20T14:51:24.510-05:00I think this is a fine and original essay on which...I think this is a fine and original essay on which I will comment more when I get the time. Whether this was post #1 or post #400, it is still impressive prose full of interesting connections.<br /> <br />In the meantime, Anonymous, your "comment" is absolutely worthless. Why in bloody hell did you bother to post it? Don't you realize that <i>the exit is in every direction.</i> Or are you not that smart?kev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12189014.post-7552325808755760542011-01-20T13:01:38.728-05:002011-01-20T13:01:38.728-05:00This is a pretty imaginative justification for Ash...This is a pretty imaginative justification for Ashley Wood's post-modern cheesecake (not that there's anything wrong with cheesecake).<br /><br />JSLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com